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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 20:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question of excessive copay for VA split pill prescriptions has been settled. Even though the VA mentions their concern for  “reasonable charges.., billings practices closer to industry standard charge structures and billing practices”, and the question of  “actual cost of dispensing” , veterans will continue to be overcharged for spilt pill prescriptions. The United States Court of Appeals for veterans’ Claims has made their ruling. A two(2) to one(1) decision. Judge Hagel, dissented, and accordingly, found the ruling, “..arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in accordance with the law.”  and filed a separate opinion. His comments, in brief follow.

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR VETERANS CLAIMS. 
NO. 09-112 (Decided April 11, 2011)

“HAGEL, Judge, joins, concurring in part and dissenting in part: I concur with the majority&#039;s
conclusion that the plain and unambiguous language of 38 U.S.C. § 1722A(a)(1) requires a veteran
to pay a full copayment for a 30-day supply of medication, without regard to the dosage or number
of pills prescribed to the veteran. I write separately, however, to express my disagreement with the
majority&#039;s conclusion that the phrase &quot;cost to the Secretary for medication,&quot; as used in section
1722A(a)(2), is susceptible to more than one interpretation.”

“When a pure question of law, such as the interpretation of a statute, is at issue, the Court
reviews the conclusions of the Board de novo, without deference. Smith v. Gober, 14 Vet.App. 227,
230 (2000). As explained above, after reviewing the language of section 1722A, I would conclude
that the plain and unambiguous language of subsection (a)(2) prohibits the Secretary from requiring
a veteran to pay an amount in excess of the cost to the Secretary for each 30-day supply of
medication furnished to him or her, without regard to the administrative costs incurred by the
Secretary in actually dispensing such medication. I would therefore conclude that the Board&#039;s
interpretation of that provision was arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in
accordance with the law. See Kent v. Principi, 389 F.3d 1380, 1384 (2004) (holding that the
&quot;arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in accordance with the law&quot; standard
of review &quot;contemplates de novo review of questions of law&quot;). Accordingly, I would set aside the
Board&#039;s December 2008 decision to the extent that it concluded that the appellant&#039;s copayment was
not excessive under section 1722A(a)(2) and would remand the matter for further development and
readjudication consistent with a proper interpretation of section 1722A(a)(2).

Lastly, I understand that some might say that the interpretation that I express would place
an unnecessary accounting burden on VA. The calculation that I believe the statute requires VA to
make in these instances is, however, routinely made up front by private pharmacies when
determining the profit margin sought on each drug dispensed to their customers. Thus, I do not
believe that such a calculation places an unreasonable burden on VA. As a result, I do not believe
that my interpretation of section 1722A produces an absurd result”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of excessive copay for VA split pill prescriptions has been settled. Even though the VA mentions their concern for  “reasonable charges.., billings practices closer to industry standard charge structures and billing practices”, and the question of  “actual cost of dispensing” , veterans will continue to be overcharged for spilt pill prescriptions. The United States Court of Appeals for veterans’ Claims has made their ruling. A two(2) to one(1) decision. Judge Hagel, dissented, and accordingly, found the ruling, “..arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in accordance with the law.”  and filed a separate opinion. His comments, in brief follow.</p>
<p>UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR VETERANS CLAIMS.<br />
NO. 09-112 (Decided April 11, 2011)</p>
<p>“HAGEL, Judge, joins, concurring in part and dissenting in part: I concur with the majority&#8217;s<br />
conclusion that the plain and unambiguous language of 38 U.S.C. § 1722A(a)(1) requires a veteran<br />
to pay a full copayment for a 30-day supply of medication, without regard to the dosage or number<br />
of pills prescribed to the veteran. I write separately, however, to express my disagreement with the<br />
majority&#8217;s conclusion that the phrase &#8220;cost to the Secretary for medication,&#8221; as used in section<br />
1722A(a)(2), is susceptible to more than one interpretation.”</p>
<p>“When a pure question of law, such as the interpretation of a statute, is at issue, the Court<br />
reviews the conclusions of the Board de novo, without deference. Smith v. Gober, 14 Vet.App. 227,<br />
230 (2000). As explained above, after reviewing the language of section 1722A, I would conclude<br />
that the plain and unambiguous language of subsection (a)(2) prohibits the Secretary from requiring<br />
a veteran to pay an amount in excess of the cost to the Secretary for each 30-day supply of<br />
medication furnished to him or her, without regard to the administrative costs incurred by the<br />
Secretary in actually dispensing such medication. I would therefore conclude that the Board&#8217;s<br />
interpretation of that provision was arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in<br />
accordance with the law. See Kent v. Principi, 389 F.3d 1380, 1384 (2004) (holding that the<br />
&#8220;arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in accordance with the law&#8221; standard<br />
of review &#8220;contemplates de novo review of questions of law&#8221;). Accordingly, I would set aside the<br />
Board&#8217;s December 2008 decision to the extent that it concluded that the appellant&#8217;s copayment was<br />
not excessive under section 1722A(a)(2) and would remand the matter for further development and<br />
readjudication consistent with a proper interpretation of section 1722A(a)(2).</p>
<p>Lastly, I understand that some might say that the interpretation that I express would place<br />
an unnecessary accounting burden on VA. The calculation that I believe the statute requires VA to<br />
make in these instances is, however, routinely made up front by private pharmacies when<br />
determining the profit margin sought on each drug dispensed to their customers. Thus, I do not<br />
believe that such a calculation places an unreasonable burden on VA. As a result, I do not believe<br />
that my interpretation of section 1722A produces an absurd result”.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This study seems sound, but it&#039;s measuring the wrong things. If  &quot;the concerned practitioner may wonder: is this safe and effective for patients? Does the financial benefit outweigh the potential for adverse therapeutic outcomes?&quot; then you would measure what patients are actually doing, and we know some people just take a double dose every other day without splitting. Dangerous. Whether the pill can be split effectively is missing the point, some people just don&#039;t split.

Can we think of any other consumer industry that would get away with asking end-users to do this? The only reason insurance companies can get away with it is because their clients are corporations, not consumers. It&#039;s this sort of practice that makes people angry enough to reform the industry at the Federal level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This study seems sound, but it&#8217;s measuring the wrong things. If  &#8220;the concerned practitioner may wonder: is this safe and effective for patients? Does the financial benefit outweigh the potential for adverse therapeutic outcomes?&#8221; then you would measure what patients are actually doing, and we know some people just take a double dose every other day without splitting. Dangerous. Whether the pill can be split effectively is missing the point, some people just don&#8217;t split.</p>
<p>Can we think of any other consumer industry that would get away with asking end-users to do this? The only reason insurance companies can get away with it is because their clients are corporations, not consumers. It&#8217;s this sort of practice that makes people angry enough to reform the industry at the Federal level.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been suggested, that the VA, in requiring split pill prescriptions has been a VA cost saving measure. This may be true. However, at the same time veterans that are required to split their pill prescriptions are being over-charged. This practice is contrary to what is described in the Federal Register of 12/6/2001. The regulation states that veterans are not required to pay an amount in excess of the actual cost of medication and pharmacy administrative costs related to the dispensing of the medication. 
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Pill medication is dispensed as shown in the following example. VA prescriptions are normally dispensed in supplies of 90 days.  However, to explain these over-charges by the VA in violation of 38 USC 1722A, this example will be at it&#039;s simplest and most understandable. Let&#039;s say that you (veteran B), are at the VA dispensary standing in line getting your prescription. Veteran (A) in front of you is dispensed the exact same prescription. Her copay for a 30 day supply of 30 pills is $8.
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You, (veteran B) having the same exact dispensed  prescription supply of 30 pills, 
being that your condition is not as severe, your prescription requires that you to split this 30 pill ($8) supply. After you sit down at your kitchen table and split your 30 pill supply, you now have 60 split pills, a 2 month supply. But hold on! Except your co-payment cost for the same exact dispensed 30 pill, $8 supply, now that it has been split, has increased in cost. It now carries a co-payment of $14. 
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The United States Code contains a consolidation and codification of the general and permanent laws. “38 USC 1722A (a)(1) Subject to paragraph (2), the Secretary shall require a veteran to pay the United States $8 for each 30-day supply of medication furnished such veteran under this chapter on an outpatient basis for the treatment of a non-service-connected disability or condition.”  However, until we can get past the cost for the same exact dispensed $8 pill medication, as explained in paragraph (2), of 38 USC 1722A, “The Secretary may not require a veteran to pay an amount in excess of the cost to the Secretary for medication described in paragraph (1),” and as well, the Federal Register, forget what it says about 30-day supply. 
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Title 38 USC 1722A, paragraph (1) codification is clarified by the Federal Register 12/6/2001 Final Rule, as to the actual cost in dispensed supplies “Also, under 38 USC 1722A, VA may not require a veteran to pay an amount in excess of the actual cost of the medication and pharmacy administrative costs related to the dispensing of the medication. VHA conducted a sturdy…and found that VA incurred a cost of $7.28 to dispense an outpatient medication even without the consideration of the actual cost of the medication…Under these circumstances, we believe that a $7 copayment would not exceed VA’s cost.” [Present day copayment now $8.]
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Published in the Federal Register, which provides a discussion of the background and the need for the regulation, and in case of a final rule how it differs from the proposed rule.
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This should  explain why veterans’ have continued to be, and have been overcharged by the VA since 2002.
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This claim is now before the United States Court of Appeals for Veterans’ Claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been suggested, that the VA, in requiring split pill prescriptions has been a VA cost saving measure. This may be true. However, at the same time veterans that are required to split their pill prescriptions are being over-charged. This practice is contrary to what is described in the Federal Register of 12/6/2001. The regulation states that veterans are not required to pay an amount in excess of the actual cost of medication and pharmacy administrative costs related to the dispensing of the medication.<br />
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Pill medication is dispensed as shown in the following example. VA prescriptions are normally dispensed in supplies of 90 days.  However, to explain these over-charges by the VA in violation of 38 USC 1722A, this example will be at it&#8217;s simplest and most understandable. Let&#8217;s say that you (veteran B), are at the VA dispensary standing in line getting your prescription. Veteran (A) in front of you is dispensed the exact same prescription. Her copay for a 30 day supply of 30 pills is $8.<br />
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You, (veteran B) having the same exact dispensed  prescription supply of 30 pills,<br />
being that your condition is not as severe, your prescription requires that you to split this 30 pill ($8) supply. After you sit down at your kitchen table and split your 30 pill supply, you now have 60 split pills, a 2 month supply. But hold on! Except your co-payment cost for the same exact dispensed 30 pill, $8 supply, now that it has been split, has increased in cost. It now carries a co-payment of $14.<br />
=<br />
The United States Code contains a consolidation and codification of the general and permanent laws. “38 USC 1722A (a)(1) Subject to paragraph (2), the Secretary shall require a veteran to pay the United States $8 for each 30-day supply of medication furnished such veteran under this chapter on an outpatient basis for the treatment of a non-service-connected disability or condition.”  However, until we can get past the cost for the same exact dispensed $8 pill medication, as explained in paragraph (2), of 38 USC 1722A, “The Secretary may not require a veteran to pay an amount in excess of the cost to the Secretary for medication described in paragraph (1),” and as well, the Federal Register, forget what it says about 30-day supply.<br />
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Title 38 USC 1722A, paragraph (1) codification is clarified by the Federal Register 12/6/2001 Final Rule, as to the actual cost in dispensed supplies “Also, under 38 USC 1722A, VA may not require a veteran to pay an amount in excess of the actual cost of the medication and pharmacy administrative costs related to the dispensing of the medication. VHA conducted a sturdy…and found that VA incurred a cost of $7.28 to dispense an outpatient medication even without the consideration of the actual cost of the medication…Under these circumstances, we believe that a $7 copayment would not exceed VA’s cost.” [Present day copayment now $8.]<br />
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Published in the Federal Register, which provides a discussion of the background and the need for the regulation, and in case of a final rule how it differs from the proposed rule.<br />
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This should  explain why veterans’ have continued to be, and have been overcharged by the VA since 2002.<br />
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This claim is now before the United States Court of Appeals for Veterans’ Claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is it ok or not to split Augmentin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is it ok or not to split Augmentin?</p>
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		<title>By: frescanese</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>frescanese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flopotomist brings up a good point.

Another example:  one of our patients with schizophrenia was discharged with a script requiring he take 3.5 tablets per day.  For a syndrome with such inherent adherence problems, this seems like a dangerous practice.

Just a thought:  does anyone know what percentage of patients actually take their prescribed meds?  (I don&#039;t know and it seems like too much work to pubmed it :) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flopotomist brings up a good point.</p>
<p>Another example:  one of our patients with schizophrenia was discharged with a script requiring he take 3.5 tablets per day.  For a syndrome with such inherent adherence problems, this seems like a dangerous practice.</p>
<p>Just a thought:  does anyone know what percentage of patients actually take their prescribed meds?  (I don&#8217;t know and it seems like too much work to pubmed it <img src='http://studentdoctor.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Flopotomist</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopotomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem not addressed here was the concern that patients with movement disorders, arthritis, or other challenges to the mechanics of the pill splitter may be forced into struggling with the device in order to get their dose.

The physician, and NOT some HMO or pharmacist should have the final say in whether or not the patient gets a 10mg tablet or a 20 mg tablet with instructions to split it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem not addressed here was the concern that patients with movement disorders, arthritis, or other challenges to the mechanics of the pill splitter may be forced into struggling with the device in order to get their dose.</p>
<p>The physician, and NOT some HMO or pharmacist should have the final say in whether or not the patient gets a 10mg tablet or a 20 mg tablet with instructions to split it.</p>
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		<title>By: FuturePharmD</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-467</link>
		<dc:creator>FuturePharmD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take levoxyl and it is more consistent if I don&#039;t split it.

Interesting, education sounds like the key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take levoxyl and it is more consistent if I don&#8217;t split it.</p>
<p>Interesting, education sounds like the key.</p>
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		<title>By: GregRph</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-466</link>
		<dc:creator>GregRph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generic Toprol xl 25mg.  It is extended release and the tablet is scored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generic Toprol xl 25mg.  It is extended release and the tablet is scored.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah M. Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah M. Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al,

That may be true but that defeats the purpose of the extended release dosage form. Once it&#039;s split it becomes immediate release. And that may deliver a higher than optimal dose of medication to the patient immediately vs. over time as intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al,</p>
<p>That may be true but that defeats the purpose of the extended release dosage form. Once it&#8217;s split it becomes immediate release. And that may deliver a higher than optimal dose of medication to the patient immediately vs. over time as intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2007/07/health-care-hot-topic-tablet-splitting/#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically, extended based products that are wax based are usually ok to split.  You just have to know the underlying technology in the tab of interest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, extended based products that are wax based are usually ok to split.  You just have to know the underlying technology in the tab of interest</p>
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