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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Olivia</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/06/stimulant-use-among-professional-students/#comment-1885</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to something &quot;Ag&quot; said:


My Background:

I have an information-processing disorder where I learn what I would ESTIMATE [no way to know for sure] that I learn about 3x slower than the typical student ... and this results in dyscalculia as well as ADD-like symptoms.  I take Adderall to help me focus better so maybe I can focus better and take in more information so I don&#039;t have to study 48 hours a week (this is NOT an estimate- I am required to keep track of study hours for my sorority.  I turn my phone off, don&#039;t listen to music, and don&#039;t have a Facebook).


My psychiatrist told me this:

There is NO placebo effect for students with ADD.  I don&#039;t know for certain if administering a placebo pill to non-ADD students would work.  My opinion is, however, after reading a ton of research (about to graduate with a BS in Neuroscience) that there will be a slight placebo effect on non-affected individuals, but it won&#039;t produce a hyper &amp; focused all-nighter in the same way that a stimulant would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to something &#8220;Ag&#8221; said:</p>
<p>My Background:</p>
<p>I have an information-processing disorder where I learn what I would ESTIMATE [no way to know for sure] that I learn about 3x slower than the typical student &#8230; and this results in dyscalculia as well as ADD-like symptoms.  I take Adderall to help me focus better so maybe I can focus better and take in more information so I don&#8217;t have to study 48 hours a week (this is NOT an estimate- I am required to keep track of study hours for my sorority.  I turn my phone off, don&#8217;t listen to music, and don&#8217;t have a Facebook).</p>
<p>My psychiatrist told me this:</p>
<p>There is NO placebo effect for students with ADD.  I don&#8217;t know for certain if administering a placebo pill to non-ADD students would work.  My opinion is, however, after reading a ton of research (about to graduate with a BS in Neuroscience) that there will be a slight placebo effect on non-affected individuals, but it won&#8217;t produce a hyper &amp; focused all-nighter in the same way that a stimulant would.</p>
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		<title>By: Arden Tjarks</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/06/stimulant-use-among-professional-students/#comment-1884</link>
		<dc:creator>Arden Tjarks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely believe that which you stated. Your favourite reason seemed to be on the web the simplest factor to remember of. I say to you, I definitely get annoyed at the same time as people think about worries that they just do not understand about. You managed to hit the nail upon the top well outlined out the whole thing with no need side effect , folks can take a signal. Will likely be back to get more. Thank you Executive Elite, 18a Greycoat Gardens, Greycoat Street, London, SW1P 2QA, 028 2088 0135</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely believe that which you stated. Your favourite reason seemed to be on the web the simplest factor to remember of. I say to you, I definitely get annoyed at the same time as people think about worries that they just do not understand about. You managed to hit the nail upon the top well outlined out the whole thing with no need side effect , folks can take a signal. Will likely be back to get more. Thank you Executive Elite, 18a Greycoat Gardens, Greycoat Street, London, SW1P 2QA, 028 2088 0135</p>
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		<title>By: JKHamlin</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/06/stimulant-use-among-professional-students/#comment-1883</link>
		<dc:creator>JKHamlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common myths about ADHD that are perpetuated even by professionals:

1. adult ADHD
2. brain scans to diagnose ADHD
3. ADHD is a &quot;neurobiological,&quot; or other such made up nonsense word, disorder.
4. Med students have ADHD because med school is hard.
5. paradoxical effect of stimulants in ADHD

In all reality, if ADHD progresses into adulthood, it becomes antisocial personality disorder. This is supported by study after study. The DSM-IV-tr does not support a diagnosis of adult ADHD. Brain scans on people who allegedly have ADHD are NOT diagnostic and are indistinguishable from sleep deprivation. Even this is shaky, since many, many studies admit that the diagnostic criteria for ADHD are barely followed by anyone, in favor of personal opinion or poor diagnosis in the first place. Most, if not all, studies on ADHD use circular reasoning and authoritarian statements, instead of evidence, to support popular assumptions about ADHD. There has never been published evidence that there is any organic damage or abnormality involved in ADHD. Med school is hard (and boring), suck it up; it doesn&#039;t mean you have ADHD. Doctor shopping is illegal and unethical. What kind of doctor are you going to be if you support this? Psychostimulant drugs affect ADHD patients exactly the same way they affect those not diagnosed with ADHD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common myths about ADHD that are perpetuated even by professionals:</p>
<p>1. adult ADHD<br />
2. brain scans to diagnose ADHD<br />
3. ADHD is a &#8220;neurobiological,&#8221; or other such made up nonsense word, disorder.<br />
4. Med students have ADHD because med school is hard.<br />
5. paradoxical effect of stimulants in ADHD</p>
<p>In all reality, if ADHD progresses into adulthood, it becomes antisocial personality disorder. This is supported by study after study. The DSM-IV-tr does not support a diagnosis of adult ADHD. Brain scans on people who allegedly have ADHD are NOT diagnostic and are indistinguishable from sleep deprivation. Even this is shaky, since many, many studies admit that the diagnostic criteria for ADHD are barely followed by anyone, in favor of personal opinion or poor diagnosis in the first place. Most, if not all, studies on ADHD use circular reasoning and authoritarian statements, instead of evidence, to support popular assumptions about ADHD. There has never been published evidence that there is any organic damage or abnormality involved in ADHD. Med school is hard (and boring), suck it up; it doesn&#8217;t mean you have ADHD. Doctor shopping is illegal and unethical. What kind of doctor are you going to be if you support this? Psychostimulant drugs affect ADHD patients exactly the same way they affect those not diagnosed with ADHD.</p>
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		<title>By: maybe ADD?</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/06/stimulant-use-among-professional-students/#comment-1882</link>
		<dc:creator>maybe ADD?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you even begin to get help if you think you have ADD? I feel if I start spouting off symptoms like I can&#039;t fall asleep, my mind is constantly racing, I can&#039;t focus longer than x number of minutes, I am anxious all the time; and i tell them im a student, the doc might just assume i want the drugs to do better in school. Essentially I do, however, i want the help too! I really feel I&#039;ve had this problem since middle school but no one wanted to help me. Now I am a drop out [got my ged] but scared of failing college because I feel inadequate when it comes to studying/learning. I feel I am stupid and everyone else is smarter and can focus better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you even begin to get help if you think you have ADD? I feel if I start spouting off symptoms like I can&#8217;t fall asleep, my mind is constantly racing, I can&#8217;t focus longer than x number of minutes, I am anxious all the time; and i tell them im a student, the doc might just assume i want the drugs to do better in school. Essentially I do, however, i want the help too! I really feel I&#8217;ve had this problem since middle school but no one wanted to help me. Now I am a drop out [got my ged] but scared of failing college because I feel inadequate when it comes to studying/learning. I feel I am stupid and everyone else is smarter and can focus better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/06/stimulant-use-among-professional-students/#comment-1881</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was astounded when I started med school last August and found out that schools don&#039;t randomly check the students for drugs.  Furthermore, in conversation with doctors, I came to find out that hospitals rarely, if ever, test doctors.  They assume that the AMA would throw a fit about civil liberties and such, so they just use the honors system.  What?!?  When I was in the military, we were tested randomly - usually a couple of times per year.  Can someone please explain to me why the health care profession feels exempt from a simple urine test?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was astounded when I started med school last August and found out that schools don&#8217;t randomly check the students for drugs.  Furthermore, in conversation with doctors, I came to find out that hospitals rarely, if ever, test doctors.  They assume that the AMA would throw a fit about civil liberties and such, so they just use the honors system.  What?!?  When I was in the military, we were tested randomly &#8211; usually a couple of times per year.  Can someone please explain to me why the health care profession feels exempt from a simple urine test?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Kostopoulos</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/06/stimulant-use-among-professional-students/#comment-1880</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Kostopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The use of nootropic drugs cannot be compared to the use of steroids in sports. The fundamental premise of professional sports is that there is a level playing field on which people of exceptional ability can come and demonstrate their skills competitively for paying spectators. The use of steroids compromises this premise by giving an unreasonable advantage to one side, negating the purpose for both spectators and participants. 

Medicine is not like this at all. The primary focus of a medical student isn&#039;t to compete against other students, it&#039;s to absorb as much information as possible and apply that information. They need gain these skills because they will be important to them as physicians.

Addressing the issue of &quot;competition,&quot; there are people with fundamental advantages from the outset; there are people who will not have to pay a dime for their medical school education. There are still others who have had extensive investment into their childhood and high school years to make them develop the skills to make them smarter. There are similarly those who were born into very poor or unsupportive backgrounds. All supposed disadvantages or advantages aside, as long as a physician is outstanding, why scrutinize the method by which he came to reach his or her greatness?

One possible response is that it could have long-term psychological consequences that are detrimental to the physician&#039;s ability to treat patients in the long term. My response is that Paul Erdos, one of the most prolific mathematicians of our time, took amphetamine salts every day of his professional career to help him focus on math. I don&#039;t think he was ever addicted. Secondly, there are many physicians who are on anti-depressants and other medications that would otherwise not be able to work or study to become a physician in the first place. Finally, those who have ADD and ADHD have demonstrated that amphetamine salts can be used responsibly and taken daily at controlled doses. Knowing my friends who have taken Adderall, I can say that they are educated, understand the possibility of addiction and measure their doses carefully. If this is &quot;drug abuse,&quot; I&#039;m certainly finding it hard to connect the image a hard-working and enterprising pre-professional student in the medical field with that of a junkie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The use of nootropic drugs cannot be compared to the use of steroids in sports. The fundamental premise of professional sports is that there is a level playing field on which people of exceptional ability can come and demonstrate their skills competitively for paying spectators. The use of steroids compromises this premise by giving an unreasonable advantage to one side, negating the purpose for both spectators and participants. </p>
<p>Medicine is not like this at all. The primary focus of a medical student isn&#8217;t to compete against other students, it&#8217;s to absorb as much information as possible and apply that information. They need gain these skills because they will be important to them as physicians.</p>
<p>Addressing the issue of &#8220;competition,&#8221; there are people with fundamental advantages from the outset; there are people who will not have to pay a dime for their medical school education. There are still others who have had extensive investment into their childhood and high school years to make them develop the skills to make them smarter. There are similarly those who were born into very poor or unsupportive backgrounds. All supposed disadvantages or advantages aside, as long as a physician is outstanding, why scrutinize the method by which he came to reach his or her greatness?</p>
<p>One possible response is that it could have long-term psychological consequences that are detrimental to the physician&#8217;s ability to treat patients in the long term. My response is that Paul Erdos, one of the most prolific mathematicians of our time, took amphetamine salts every day of his professional career to help him focus on math. I don&#8217;t think he was ever addicted. Secondly, there are many physicians who are on anti-depressants and other medications that would otherwise not be able to work or study to become a physician in the first place. Finally, those who have ADD and ADHD have demonstrated that amphetamine salts can be used responsibly and taken daily at controlled doses. Knowing my friends who have taken Adderall, I can say that they are educated, understand the possibility of addiction and measure their doses carefully. If this is &#8220;drug abuse,&#8221; I&#8217;m certainly finding it hard to connect the image a hard-working and enterprising pre-professional student in the medical field with that of a junkie.</p>
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		<title>By: MedStudent</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/06/stimulant-use-among-professional-students/#comment-1879</link>
		<dc:creator>MedStudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, if you are actually diagnosed with ADD/ADHD, the meds will not make you more hyper, they actually calm you down, its the first thing we learned about ADD/ADHD and amphetimines in medical school.
My story:  I struggled so much in undergrad, I couldn&#039;t sit still and study for longer than 15min. I had such an annoying inner restlessness, and during lectures (anywhere for that matter) my mind was going a mile a minute. I always was moving some part of my body, it was so frustrating. I was depressed because I couldn&#039;t understand why it was so hard for me to focus! Nothing held my attention. But when I was diagnosed with ADD in med school, after a brain scan (actually shows areas of lower activity in PEOPLE WHO REALLY HAVE ADD/ADHD) and a psych evaluation, I started taking a very very low dose adderall, and the effects were amazing. For the first time in my life I am able to sit still and focus, and not feel the extreme restlessness that has always plagued me. I felt so calm!  SO NO I am not using it as a crutch. It is so easy for someone who is completely normal to say its a problem with discipline. No one knows how it feels, except people with ADD/ADHD, to have to strain just to focus on anything.  Its a constant mental exercise to try to study, pay attention in class, or to freakin pay attention during a movie.  Its like your mind is running a constant marathon and there is no rest, on average it takes me 1hr to fall asleep because its hard to shut my thoughts off. SO all the idiots taking adderral need to  stop, you are giving the people who actually need it a bad name. And everyone who says there is no such thing is foolish.  Yeah I did well, but it was extremely difficult and draining to study. These meds don&#039;t make med school easier for me, I still have to  study my butt off, and I study just as much on the meds, but now I can use my brain power to learn the lectures, rather than on trying to focus long enough to learn the lectures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, if you are actually diagnosed with ADD/ADHD, the meds will not make you more hyper, they actually calm you down, its the first thing we learned about ADD/ADHD and amphetimines in medical school.<br />
My story:  I struggled so much in undergrad, I couldn&#8217;t sit still and study for longer than 15min. I had such an annoying inner restlessness, and during lectures (anywhere for that matter) my mind was going a mile a minute. I always was moving some part of my body, it was so frustrating. I was depressed because I couldn&#8217;t understand why it was so hard for me to focus! Nothing held my attention. But when I was diagnosed with ADD in med school, after a brain scan (actually shows areas of lower activity in PEOPLE WHO REALLY HAVE ADD/ADHD) and a psych evaluation, I started taking a very very low dose adderall, and the effects were amazing. For the first time in my life I am able to sit still and focus, and not feel the extreme restlessness that has always plagued me. I felt so calm!  SO NO I am not using it as a crutch. It is so easy for someone who is completely normal to say its a problem with discipline. No one knows how it feels, except people with ADD/ADHD, to have to strain just to focus on anything.  Its a constant mental exercise to try to study, pay attention in class, or to freakin pay attention during a movie.  Its like your mind is running a constant marathon and there is no rest, on average it takes me 1hr to fall asleep because its hard to shut my thoughts off. SO all the idiots taking adderral need to  stop, you are giving the people who actually need it a bad name. And everyone who says there is no such thing is foolish.  Yeah I did well, but it was extremely difficult and draining to study. These meds don&#8217;t make med school easier for me, I still have to  study my butt off, and I study just as much on the meds, but now I can use my brain power to learn the lectures, rather than on trying to focus long enough to learn the lectures.</p>
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		<title>By: Student shoots at classmate over unpleasant remark &#171; Asianetindia.com Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Student shoots at classmate over unpleasant remark &#171; Asianetindia.com Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: coffeemakers</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/06/stimulant-use-among-professional-students/#comment-1877</link>
		<dc:creator>coffeemakers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>prescribed stimulants or not, most of the stimulants are used on campus and unless this is banned, will continue to be used. I took them for 2 years and had a tough time giving up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>prescribed stimulants or not, most of the stimulants are used on campus and unless this is banned, will continue to be used. I took them for 2 years and had a tough time giving up.</p>
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