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		<title>By: Ninjatimes</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2079</link>
		<dc:creator>Ninjatimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about healthcare reform is a waste of time without addressing the societal &quot;norms&quot; that perpetuate it.  And yeah, that&#039;s pie in the sky stuff, but it&#039;s the truth!

Med students need to step up and quit trying to chase some sort of 7 figure salary.  100 Primaries promoting good health for their patients is more effective than 100 CT surgeons waiting to slice them open for a 5-figure pay day.  

Granted med school needs to somehow be cheaper.  If the government wants to help, subsidize tuition!

People (patients) need to lay off the WebMD, and trust their physicians.  If I do a thorough work up on your kid after he hits his head while jumping on the bed, be happy about it.  Don&#039;t demand a Rx.  Or a CT.  Or an MRI.  THAT is what drives up the cost of health insurance.  There just isn&#039;t enough time in a shift for me to sit there and argue with you.  You somehow became smarter than me since you know how to check WebMD.

Lawyers need to calm down.  So doctor&#039;s don&#039;t have to practice defensive medicine just to sleep at night.  Yes, there are some really incompetent doctors out there, but they will be uninsurable or have their license revoked.  Doctors are human.  We make mistakes that are statistically insignificant.  

Which goes back to people/patients.  Sometimes you can see someone thinking, &quot;I hope my doc makes some minor error, so that I can sue him!  Chaching!!!&quot;

It&#039;s pie in the sky stuff, but that&#039;s what will fix healthcare.  If everyone is gimme gimme gimme, what is left?????  Keep putting MORE $ into the pot, cuz everyone has their hands out.  Doctors, lawyers, patients, insurance companies, medical supplies, pharmaceuticals, the government...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about healthcare reform is a waste of time without addressing the societal &#8220;norms&#8221; that perpetuate it.  And yeah, that&#8217;s pie in the sky stuff, but it&#8217;s the truth!</p>
<p>Med students need to step up and quit trying to chase some sort of 7 figure salary.  100 Primaries promoting good health for their patients is more effective than 100 CT surgeons waiting to slice them open for a 5-figure pay day.  </p>
<p>Granted med school needs to somehow be cheaper.  If the government wants to help, subsidize tuition!</p>
<p>People (patients) need to lay off the WebMD, and trust their physicians.  If I do a thorough work up on your kid after he hits his head while jumping on the bed, be happy about it.  Don&#8217;t demand a Rx.  Or a CT.  Or an MRI.  THAT is what drives up the cost of health insurance.  There just isn&#8217;t enough time in a shift for me to sit there and argue with you.  You somehow became smarter than me since you know how to check WebMD.</p>
<p>Lawyers need to calm down.  So doctor&#8217;s don&#8217;t have to practice defensive medicine just to sleep at night.  Yes, there are some really incompetent doctors out there, but they will be uninsurable or have their license revoked.  Doctors are human.  We make mistakes that are statistically insignificant.  </p>
<p>Which goes back to people/patients.  Sometimes you can see someone thinking, &#8220;I hope my doc makes some minor error, so that I can sue him!  Chaching!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pie in the sky stuff, but that&#8217;s what will fix healthcare.  If everyone is gimme gimme gimme, what is left?????  Keep putting MORE $ into the pot, cuz everyone has their hands out.  Doctors, lawyers, patients, insurance companies, medical supplies, pharmaceuticals, the government&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2078</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a lot of people on here who disagree with the author&#039;s message, charging him with fallacies, yet failing to point them out or argue a valid point against it (save for a few intelligent people). 
Redgar or whatever your name is, as an individual who doesn&#039;t have health insurance, people are uninsured not because we don&#039;t want to pay the money to have it. We really don&#039;t have the money to buy it at all, and not because we are unemployed; we are working people. 

Funny how most of you will call NHI a bureaucracy when the current for-profit system we have now dictates just about everything you can and can&#039;t do to get yourself treated, in addition to picking the physicians you can or can&#039;t see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a lot of people on here who disagree with the author&#8217;s message, charging him with fallacies, yet failing to point them out or argue a valid point against it (save for a few intelligent people).<br />
Redgar or whatever your name is, as an individual who doesn&#8217;t have health insurance, people are uninsured not because we don&#8217;t want to pay the money to have it. We really don&#8217;t have the money to buy it at all, and not because we are unemployed; we are working people. </p>
<p>Funny how most of you will call NHI a bureaucracy when the current for-profit system we have now dictates just about everything you can and can&#8217;t do to get yourself treated, in addition to picking the physicians you can or can&#8217;t see.</p>
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		<title>By: JKHamlin</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2077</link>
		<dc:creator>JKHamlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beliefs of this man are the epitome of the Ronald Reagan quote:

&quot;It&#039;s not that liberals are ignorant; it&#039;s that they know so much that just isn&#039;t so.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beliefs of this man are the epitome of the Ronald Reagan quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not that liberals are ignorant; it&#8217;s that they know so much that just isn&#8217;t so.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: accurate and true</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2076</link>
		<dc:creator>accurate and true</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Geyman needs to stop misinforming the public:

1. The reason why Britain has a National Health Service is b/c of World War II, when rationing of all goods and services was required by the country. The system remained after the war b/c of bureaucracy it created. It is now the 3rd largest employer in the world, behind the Red Army of China and India&#039;s National Railways.

2. Infant mortality rates are often cited as a reason socialized medicine and a single-payer system is supposed to be better than what we have here. But according to Dr. Linda Halderman, a policy adviser in the California State Senate, these comparisons are BOGUS.

As she points out, in the U.S., low birth-weight babies are still babies. In Canada, Germany and Austria, a premature baby weighing less than 500 grams is not considered a living child and is not counted in such statistics. They’re considered “unsalvageable” and therefore never alive.

Norway boasts one of the lowest infant mortality rates in the world — until you factor in weight at birth, and then its rate is no better than in the U.S.

In other countries babies that survive less than 24 hours are also excluded and are classified as “stillborn.” In the U.S. any infant that shows any sign of life for any length of time is considered a live birth.

A child born in Hong Kong or Japan that lives less than a day is reported as a “miscarriage” and not counted. In Switzerland and other parts of Europe, a baby is not counted as a baby if it is less than 30 centimeters in length.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Geyman needs to stop misinforming the public:</p>
<p>1. The reason why Britain has a National Health Service is b/c of World War II, when rationing of all goods and services was required by the country. The system remained after the war b/c of bureaucracy it created. It is now the 3rd largest employer in the world, behind the Red Army of China and India&#8217;s National Railways.</p>
<p>2. Infant mortality rates are often cited as a reason socialized medicine and a single-payer system is supposed to be better than what we have here. But according to Dr. Linda Halderman, a policy adviser in the California State Senate, these comparisons are BOGUS.</p>
<p>As she points out, in the U.S., low birth-weight babies are still babies. In Canada, Germany and Austria, a premature baby weighing less than 500 grams is not considered a living child and is not counted in such statistics. They’re considered “unsalvageable” and therefore never alive.</p>
<p>Norway boasts one of the lowest infant mortality rates in the world — until you factor in weight at birth, and then its rate is no better than in the U.S.</p>
<p>In other countries babies that survive less than 24 hours are also excluded and are classified as “stillborn.” In the U.S. any infant that shows any sign of life for any length of time is considered a live birth.</p>
<p>A child born in Hong Kong or Japan that lives less than a day is reported as a “miscarriage” and not counted. In Switzerland and other parts of Europe, a baby is not counted as a baby if it is less than 30 centimeters in length.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Infernobutterrfly. &quot;a single payer health care or one ran by the gov’t equals one company. &quot; How is it true? It doesn&#039;t make sense to me. You still have private health care besides govt option. I think you are paid by private insurers to write these things. Private insurance thru employer is the biggest scam run by insurers, it is like a umbrella that disappears when it rains. When you get cancer or serious health issue, you lose your job and you lose your health insurance. Now dont talk about cobra, everybody knows how bad that is. By the way you guys live in one of most social countries in world. Dont believe me, just look at your paycheck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Infernobutterrfly. &#8220;a single payer health care or one ran by the gov’t equals one company. &#8221; How is it true? It doesn&#8217;t make sense to me. You still have private health care besides govt option. I think you are paid by private insurers to write these things. Private insurance thru employer is the biggest scam run by insurers, it is like a umbrella that disappears when it rains. When you get cancer or serious health issue, you lose your job and you lose your health insurance. Now dont talk about cobra, everybody knows how bad that is. By the way you guys live in one of most social countries in world. Dont believe me, just look at your paycheck.</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2074</link>
		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to see the look on these ideologues faces when the bottom falls out and private businesses suddenly say &quot;wait, I don&#039;t have to cover my employees? Thanks Uncle Sam.&quot; The private market will be choked out due to lack of support! I&#039;m curious to know if this sudden shift to a single payer system is taking into account the massive repayment options students in Europe have access to. 

Who&#039;s going to foot the bill for tuition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to see the look on these ideologues faces when the bottom falls out and private businesses suddenly say &#8220;wait, I don&#8217;t have to cover my employees? Thanks Uncle Sam.&#8221; The private market will be choked out due to lack of support! I&#8217;m curious to know if this sudden shift to a single payer system is taking into account the massive repayment options students in Europe have access to. </p>
<p>Who&#8217;s going to foot the bill for tuition?</p>
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		<title>By: Infernobutterrfly</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator>Infernobutterrfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, to me, a single payer health care or one ran by the gov&#039;t equals one company.   

Don&#039;t get me wrong.  I do like the idea of universal health care.  I just do not see any practical means to establish that in America.  I see an ideal method and noble cause.  But the methods so far are not anywhere near practical.  If you want to talk about ideals, sure.   But reality is also about practicality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, to me, a single payer health care or one ran by the gov&#8217;t equals one company.   </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I do like the idea of universal health care.  I just do not see any practical means to establish that in America.  I see an ideal method and noble cause.  But the methods so far are not anywhere near practical.  If you want to talk about ideals, sure.   But reality is also about practicality.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2072</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Infernobutterrfly , you are misinformed, there isn&#039;t going to be just one organization. Private insurance is still going to be there. Would be nice if people just read before wasting everybody&#039;s time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Infernobutterrfly , you are misinformed, there isn&#8217;t going to be just one organization. Private insurance is still going to be there. Would be nice if people just read before wasting everybody&#8217;s time.</p>
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		<title>By: Infernobutterrfly</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2071</link>
		<dc:creator>Infernobutterrfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this article is very one sided and for SDN to claim that they are not pushing an agenda is silly at best.  Please leave the political activities to those who push it.  Like another poster, you have also lost my donation until the site is truly reflective (not subjective) on &quot;hot&quot; issues.

As for the call for a NHI, it will never work.  My reason is simple.  Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Giving one organization the power of determining the nation&#039;s health care will result in the abuse and corruption of the ideals, sweat and blood of those involved.  Its only a matter of time.  

But I will have to admit that the current system needs to change.  I do not know how, but I do know it isn&#039;t in NHI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this article is very one sided and for SDN to claim that they are not pushing an agenda is silly at best.  Please leave the political activities to those who push it.  Like another poster, you have also lost my donation until the site is truly reflective (not subjective) on &#8220;hot&#8221; issues.</p>
<p>As for the call for a NHI, it will never work.  My reason is simple.  Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Giving one organization the power of determining the nation&#8217;s health care will result in the abuse and corruption of the ideals, sweat and blood of those involved.  Its only a matter of time.  </p>
<p>But I will have to admit that the current system needs to change.  I do not know how, but I do know it isn&#8217;t in NHI.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://studentdoctor.net/2008/08/do-not-resuscitate/#comment-2070</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved to canada from usa and find people are very happy, they are not worried about medical bills, or insurance premiums, no chance of going bankrupt paying medical bills. My doctor is a us citizen lives in blaine and comes to work in canada for last 20 years. I can see him any working day with about 1 hour wait. Not only american doctors come here to work but american patients also come here to buy medicines. We are all happy here. People are not dying here because of lack of insurance like in usa. Canadian medical system is better than usa. It is not free, I pay 100 dollar every month for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved to canada from usa and find people are very happy, they are not worried about medical bills, or insurance premiums, no chance of going bankrupt paying medical bills. My doctor is a us citizen lives in blaine and comes to work in canada for last 20 years. I can see him any working day with about 1 hour wait. Not only american doctors come here to work but american patients also come here to buy medicines. We are all happy here. People are not dying here because of lack of insurance like in usa. Canadian medical system is better than usa. It is not free, I pay 100 dollar every month for it.</p>
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